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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:43 pm ] |
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Hi Do you think it matters if I do my fret leveling and recrowning before the applying the finish or after. I was thinking that if done before, no risk to the finish. If after, it is closer to the end of the construction of the guitar. What are all of your thoughts |
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:17 pm ] |
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Andy, for what it's owrth, I was planning on doing my current build before the finish. For the same reasons as you are. I don't really see what difference it would make, except for being easier. |
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| Author: | Louis Freilicher [ Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:40 pm ] |
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I usually fret after I finish. I use a dovetail neck joint and I like to finish the neck and body separately. Once the finish is done I glue the neck in and do a final leveling of the board before I install the frets. Louis |
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| Author: | Daniel M [ Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:51 pm ] |
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I can't remember for sure, but I think it was Tim Mcknight's web site has a great article on fretboad leveling, fretting & truing up the frets. All the work is done after finishing & assembly of the neck to the body. (I arch the fingerboard before assembly) I've used his method on 4 instruments now & I love it! So far, I haven't caused any damage to the finish... either Nitro or catylized polyurethane. I make a cardboard mask for the top & tape it firmly in place. You gotta be sure to pick up all the fret trimmings & get rid of the filings, so they don't scratch the finish. My fingerboards are MUCH straighter & fret dressing is WAY easier using this method. Again... Just one more way to skin the cat. |
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| Author: | crazymanmichael [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:00 am ] |
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i prefer to finish the neck and body separately to prevent finish build up at the heel/body and fb/top joins. so much easier to sand and buff out. then attach the neck and then do the frets. |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:28 am ] |
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I level both fretboard and frets after the neck is attached to the body This insures they are in plane with the desired FB/bridge relationship. |
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:29 am ] |
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I like to finish the neck and body separately and then assemble it and do all the fretwork. |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:53 am ] |
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I've yet to find the perfect approach. The work really needs to be done after the neck is attached. But I really like the look of a guitar that is finished with the neck and body seperate. What I've come to do is fret, bevel, level and crown with the neck screwed on prior to finish. Finish the guitar and then touch up if the extension needs it after it's glued down. I try to do as little work as possible after finish as I like to drop things and file dents in a top are less than desireable. |
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| Author: | Roy O [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:05 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Daniel M] I can't remember for sure, but I think it was Tim Mcknight's web site has a great article on fretboad leveling, fretting & truing up the frets.[/QUOTE] Tim posted this on the OLF's "jigs, tools and techniques" page. |
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:20 am ] |
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What I am planning to do on this one is use a John Mayes style neck attachment. Seems to me that I can bolt the neck on, get everything fitted right, install/level the frets and then remove the neck for finishing. Once the finish is on I can remount the neck and do any minor touchups that are necessary. I'll let you know if it works out as planned or if there are any unforeseen dangers lurking around that I didn't think of ahead of time. |
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| Author: | John Mayes [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:37 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Dave Rector] What I am planning to do on this one is use a John Mayes style neck attachment. Seems to me that I can bolt the neck on, get everything fitted right, install/level the frets and then remove the neck for finishing. Once the finish is on I can remount the neck and do any minor touchups that are necessary. I'll let you know if it works out as planned or if there are any unforeseen dangers lurking around that I didn't think of ahead of time.[/QUOTE] You can do (and I do this too) just that. It works well as long as you keep the humidity under check (which we should be doing anyway) |
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| Author: | Louis Freilicher [ Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:14 pm ] |
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I level with the neck dead flat or with a little back bow if I need to add some more relief to the fingerboard. If you level with simulated string tension then you will take your relief out of the neck. Louis |
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| Author: | Dave Rector [ Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:54 am ] |
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[QUOTE=John Mayes]You can do (and I do this too) just that. It works well as long as you keep the humidity under check (which we should be doing anyway)[/QUOTE] Thanks for the clarification John! I was hoping this would work, as it seems it would be a much simpler way to do it. |
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